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colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly it's going to be that useful, that effective. i do not think that those are the solutions that will stop the epidemic of violence, it's right at the edge of what is possible. >> you eluded to this before the break, politically, there may not be the will. fact of the matter is there could very well not be the will two months from now in the halls of congress. what are you hearing about this as the tragedy becomes more of a memory to a lot of folks? >> well, i mean, everyone of course, is very upset about this, and thinks that there needs to be a conversation,
colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly...
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just need the federal government to get out of our way and help us rather than be in the pocket of the nra. you know, and i just want to say when i was a state senator i pushed very hard for sunday hunting. i support hunters. hunters need to know that this is all we want. we just want the assault weapon ban, the ban of the magazines with large clips and we want better handgun registration and we want to eliminate these loopholes that terrorists and mental patients can get guns. these gun shows, 40% of the guns are bought at gun shows. >> mayor finch, how many guns have you got today? >> over 300 for the first three days and about a hundred every day so far that we've been doing it is our average and we still need donors to donate so the average. we need donors to donate so we can have more money to buy more guns and we need people to turn in weapons. every saturday we will be doing ilt. >> do you destroy the guns? >> we will be making the guns to jewelry and then sell that to get more money, and then we will bury some of the guns to demonstrate our effort to make the streets safer. >> mayo
just need the federal government to get out of our way and help us rather than be in the pocket of the nra. you know, and i just want to say when i was a state senator i pushed very hard for sunday hunting. i support hunters. hunters need to know that this is all we want. we just want the assault weapon ban, the ban of the magazines with large clips and we want better handgun registration and we want to eliminate these loopholes that terrorists and mental patients can get guns. these gun shows,...
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. >> we need a rationale gun policy and need to get it out of the hands of the nra boys. >> reporter: in district heights, maryland today, about two dozen men, women, and children gathered outside of the gun shop they say helps contribute to the gun violence in communities. >> my nephew who lived in richmond, virginia, was killed five years ago so, yeah, i know. >> the purpose will come. make no mistake about, that the protests will come. >> reporter: they say guns send too many young people to their their graves and prison. >> we must not rely on physical violence to resolve our human problems. >> reporter: the owner of realco gun said he doesn't give interviews, never has and never will. >> reporter: back here, there is still a long line to get into the gun show and the nra is offering a deal, join up and get one for free. >> and thank you. >>> the victims of a deadly accident in springfield were on the way to a funeral. it happened last night at the mixing bowl where 95 meets the beltway in springfield. police say an 87-year-old pennsylvania man was behind the wheel of a pickup tru
. >> we need a rationale gun policy and need to get it out of the hands of the nra boys. >> reporter: in district heights, maryland today, about two dozen men, women, and children gathered outside of the gun shop they say helps contribute to the gun violence in communities. >> my nephew who lived in richmond, virginia, was killed five years ago so, yeah, i know. >> the purpose will come. make no mistake about, that the protests will come. >> reporter: they say guns...
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yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to that, that's coming up in about 90 minutes. >>> shifting gears now, by now you've heard all about the finger pointing over the fiscal cliff, it's happening all day, both sides blame each other for the lack of progress and today, top congressional leaders will head to the white house for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployme
yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to...
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. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private security guards. there may be some places where they want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions. >> it's a much softer stance than just one week ago. here's what the nra's executive vp said back then. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> at the time, wayne lapierre said armed officers were the only way to prevent another massacre like the one that happened in newtown. >>> president obama summoning congressional leaders to the white house, 3:00 this aft
. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private...
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and i would say to the nra or anybody that says, hey, this isn't the problem, if it's not the problem, it will make a difference, it should make a difference banning them. let's err on the side of caution, keep the kids safe. thank you. >> let me also echo again my appreciation for commissioner dr. joe marshall because omega boys club has been a great partner. they are part of our effort to organize commutes, to intervene as early as we can, and i totally agree with the chief that these particular guns, if you look at them up front and close, you'll see they really shouldn't be in anybody's homes. they're designed to kill folks. many of them military style. i think to bring home the real story here is dr. andrei campbell of our san francisco general hospital, and also on staff at ucsf. he is at the forefront of world class trauma center that we have. and if you go day to day, and certainly with the 67 homicides that we have with the numbers of bodies that were showing up and people have shown up, many of which he saved, many of which he couldn't save that were victims of bullets and v
and i would say to the nra or anybody that says, hey, this isn't the problem, if it's not the problem, it will make a difference, it should make a difference banning them. let's err on the side of caution, keep the kids safe. thank you. >> let me also echo again my appreciation for commissioner dr. joe marshall because omega boys club has been a great partner. they are part of our effort to organize commutes, to intervene as early as we can, and i totally agree with the chief that these...
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get rid of the guns because they wanted them out of their house. >> people have every right to either own or not own a gun. that's what a free country is about. >> let's move on to the polls that i was talking about earlier. there are some who are as conservative as you can get who say the nra not listening to your own members. frank says a republican pollster had to say on cbs. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the 2nd amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not e
one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get...
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the nra might say you're taking guns out of the good guys. >> well, the nra says a lot of things that doesn't pass the smell test for most of us. they said what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have a lot of good guys with guns, more than anyplace in the world, and we also have a lot of gun violence. >> reporter: a report found that guns likely to be used in crimes were unlikely to be turned in at gun buybacks. villaraigosa says since 2009 los angeles has collected 8,000 guns at buybacks, a period in which violent crime in the city has dropped by 33%. >> this is part of a much bigger effort, a comprehensive effort to address gun and gang violence. and like i said, in the city of l.a., the proof is in the pudding. >> reporter: the line of cars stretched for six blocks as people waited up to three hours to turn in their guns. >> me turning my rifles in now is my sympathy card to connecticut. >> reporter: so many people are turning in their guns here that lapd officials believe there will be their most successful gun buyback program e
the nra might say you're taking guns out of the good guys. >> well, the nra says a lot of things that doesn't pass the smell test for most of us. they said what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have a lot of good guys with guns, more than anyplace in the world, and we also have a lot of gun violence. >> reporter: a report found that guns likely to be used in crimes were unlikely to be turned in at gun buybacks. villaraigosa says...
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it is a sign of how the nra works in washington. the of the very effective job of steering that agency by threatening its budget -- scaring that gency by threatening its budget, and by trying to keep them from having a permanent director. it is been six years. neither president bush for president obama has been able to get a permanent director. agency's stripped of the to not have leadership. host: we have been talking to matt bennett of third way. coming up a 10:00 a.m., the senate will be in session. they do not have the fiscal cliff on their agenda, but leader harry reid is expected to make a morning speech or morning statement about issues regarding the fiscal cliff. you can go to c-span2 can watch that. they're coming in at 10:00 a.m. this morning. the house is coming in at 2:00 p.m.. did not have an agenda. coming in to be here and just in case, et cetera. they will be coming in and probably be in session for a short time and then go out. you could keep updated on our web site at c-span.org. another four day weekend on "booktv
it is a sign of how the nra works in washington. the of the very effective job of steering that agency by threatening its budget -- scaring that gency by threatening its budget, and by trying to keep them from having a permanent director. it is been six years. neither president bush for president obama has been able to get a permanent director. agency's stripped of the to not have leadership. host: we have been talking to matt bennett of third way. coming up a 10:00 a.m., the senate will be in...
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gregory used that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no? good idea or bad idea? >> bad. >> on balance bad. >> you probably heard about this, a lot of outrage. one blogger decided to fight back, you wonder whether that's a good or bad idea as well, when we come back. nts that pink cast. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. aww man.
gregory used that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no?...
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eastern on cnn newsroom, carol costello will talk with the nra president about gun rights in the wake of the newtown massacre. >>> sheer panic at a sacramento mall. just look at this. can you imagine that? police say a 20-person brawl broke out in the food court. during the fight there were reports of loud pops that sounded like gunfire. given what's been going on lately, you can imagine the terror there. the mall security director actually says there was no gunfire, no guns were recovered. three teens were arrested, the stores went into lockdown just in case. the mall reopened about an hour later, still trying to figure out the source of those popping sounds, but we'll keep you posted. but just look at that video, incredible. >>> coming up, new revelations about occupy wall street and what the fbi was doing to keep tabs on the movement. >>> plus, swamped in the street. how this bus ended up stuck in just a matter of seconds. we'll explain. >>> ali velshi in for soledad this morning -- >> talking about his post-christmas workout routine. >> coming up on "starting point" this morning,
eastern on cnn newsroom, carol costello will talk with the nra president about gun rights in the wake of the newtown massacre. >>> sheer panic at a sacramento mall. just look at this. can you imagine that? police say a 20-person brawl broke out in the food court. during the fight there were reports of loud pops that sounded like gunfire. given what's been going on lately, you can imagine the terror there. the mall security director actually says there was no gunfire, no guns were...
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meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was denied. the d.c. police chief said we are investigating incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real. >>> one loud critic of the u.s. gun law is cnn host piers morgan. some in the u.s. are ready to send the british citizen packing. over 80,000 people signed requests on the white house petition site to deport morgan for engaging in "hostile attack" against the constitution targeting the second amendment. white house requires 25,000 signatures to garner a response. on twitter, more gone asked if i do get deported from america for wanting fewer gun murders are there any other countries that will have me? one of
meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was...
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i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is there are a lot of republicans who are resistant to closing that loophole. republicans need to recognize that a second amendment and cracking down on illegal private sales both can happen at the same time. they need to move on that issue to be where the country is now. >> ever since the newtown shooting, i felt this has been a one dimensional conversation. it has been based on the issue of gun control. when to deal with and i think you have to look at it from multiple direction. the problem though is that you have folks who want the quick fix. they want to be able to say hey
i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is...
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the nra might say you're just taking guns out of the hands of the good guys. >> well shgs , they said that what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have more good guys with guns than any place in the world, and we also have more gun violence. >> reporter: guns likely to be used in crimes are unlikely to be turned in at gun buy-backs. the mayor said since 2009, los angeles has collected 8,000 guns at buy-backs, a period in which violent crime in the city has dropped by 33%. >> this is part of a much bigger effort, a comprehensive effort to address gun and gang violence. and like i said in the city of la, the proof is in the pudding. >> reporter: the line of cars stretched for 6 blocks as people waited up to three hours to turn in their guns. >> it's my sympathy card to connecticut. >> reporter: many people are turning in their guns here that land officials expect this to be -- that lapd officials expect this to be their most successful buy-back ever. >>> president obama will spend the night aboard airforce 1 making a red-eye trip from
the nra might say you're just taking guns out of the hands of the good guys. >> well shgs , they said that what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have more good guys with guns than any place in the world, and we also have more gun violence. >> reporter: guns likely to be used in crimes are unlikely to be turned in at gun buy-backs. the mayor said since 2009, los angeles has collected 8,000 guns at buy-backs, a period in which...
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during sunday's "meet the press" while interviewing an nra executive he held up a high-capacity magazine which is illegal in the district. the washington metropolitan police department is investigating. >> susan, thank you very much. >>> up next, big news if you drive a toyota or have been watching 360s exclusive reporting of cars that owners say accelerated out of control. a billion dollar 0 settlement to tell you about and more when 360 continues. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ m
during sunday's "meet the press" while interviewing an nra executive he held up a high-capacity magazine which is illegal in the district. the washington metropolitan police department is investigating. >> susan, thank you very much. >>> up next, big news if you drive a toyota or have been watching 360s exclusive reporting of cars that owners say accelerated out of control. a billion dollar 0 settlement to tell you about and more when 360 continues. ♪ if loving you is...
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is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false. you have to look at the gun violence problem more broadly rather than fighting the last war. >> but there is a disconnect in this conversation. the quote from frank lutz. here's what he had to say about the nra's propos. >> the public wants guns out of the schools, not in and they're not asking for a security official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that
is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false....
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meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was denied. the d.c. police chief said we are investigating incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real. >>> one loud critic of the u.s. gun law is cnn host piers morgan. some in the u.s. are ready to send the british citizen packing. over 80,000 people signed requests on the white house petition site to deport morgan for engaging in "hostile attack" against the constitution targeting the second amendment. white house requires 25,000 signatures to garner a response. on twitter, more gone asked if i do get deported from america for wanting fewer gun murders are there any other countries that will have me? one of
meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was...
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if there is a disconnect between nra members and the nra leadership. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gi of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency. the ambulance will talk to patient records will talk to doctors about saving lives. it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. the next big thing? we're going to wake the world up. ♪ and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. ♪ cisco. tomorrow starts here. >>> throughout newtown, connecticut, teddy bears, the candles, pictures of christmas trees, they were displayed everywhere in remembrance of the victims who lost their lives in the shooting massacre at sandy hook elementary. the community united during the holiday to support the families of the victims wh
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still ahead a member of the mainstre mainstream media pressing the head of the nra on gun control. >> here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. >> now david gregory that news anchor the one getting drilled by police we will tell you why. >> did you get another pair of socks for christmas? my honey did. what about a gift card you don't want? how to turn unwanted gifts and gift cards into cash. tell you about that. let's give thanks - for an idea. a grand idea called america. the idea that if you work hard, if you have a dream, if you work with your neighbors... you can do most anything. this led to other ideas like lerty and rock 'n' roll. to free markets, free enterprise, and free refills. it put a man on the moon and a phone in your pocket. our country's gone through a lot over the centuries and a half. but this idea isn't fragile. when times get tough, it rallies us as one. every day, more people believe in the american idea and when they do, the dream comes true. we're grateful to be a part of it. [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing co
still ahead a member of the mainstre mainstream media pressing the head of the nra on gun control. >> here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. >> now david gregory that news anchor the one getting drilled by police we will tell you why. >> did you get another pair of socks for christmas? my honey did. what about a gift card you don't want? how to turn unwanted gifts and gift cards into cash. tell you about that. let's give thanks - for an idea. a grand idea...
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but we also need to take a look at what's going on to combat the nra, to push back against the nra. you know, i wrote a piece talking about how mayor bloomberg is doing his part with mayors against illegal guns and also his super pac, independence usa pac, where he's really going out there, pushing back against illegal guns, going up against the nra in only the way mike bloomberg can, one, because he's a billionaire. and being a billionaire gives you the money to go up against the nra, which a lot of people donate ha don't have, but it also gives him that independence to sort of tell the nra to stuff it. so if you have the president out there pushing, you have mayor bloomberg out there pushing, then i think it's incumbent upon all of us to go out there and and give our members of congress the courage they need to tell the nra, this time, we're not listening to you. this time, we're going to do something. >> yeah. john heilemann? >> well, look, i think that that's all true. and you know, you know, the president has the loudest voice here. and he can't -- you know, he's only one voice
but we also need to take a look at what's going on to combat the nra, to push back against the nra. you know, i wrote a piece talking about how mayor bloomberg is doing his part with mayors against illegal guns and also his super pac, independence usa pac, where he's really going out there, pushing back against illegal guns, going up against the nra in only the way mike bloomberg can, one, because he's a billionaire. and being a billionaire gives you the money to go up against the nra, which a...
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that stance was met with awave of headlines and editorials that lampooned la pierre condemned the nra refusal to give any ground on gun control. but sunday on nbc's "meet the press" he was unrepentant. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i tell what you the american people, i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is going to try to do that. >> brown: on the same program, new york democrat senator chuck schumer called la pierre tone deaf. >> he blamed everything but guns, movies, the media, president obama, gun-free cool zones, you name it, the video games, he blames them. now, trying to prevent shootings in schools without talking about guns is like trying to prevent lung canger is without talking about cigarettes. >> brown: schumer and others are now urging renewed ban on assault-style weapons, curbs on high capacity ammunition magazines. some republicans have joined in. senator kay bailey hutchison of texas spoke on "face
that stance was met with awave of headlines and editorials that lampooned la pierre condemned the nra refusal to give any ground on gun control. but sunday on nbc's "meet the press" he was unrepentant. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i tell what you the american people, i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is...
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how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy that if some horrible monster tries to do something they will be there. >> lapeer says the nra is working with former republican congressman and former deputy director asa hutchinson to develop a more security program that would include how it's paid for. >> jamie: certainly in the senate the democrats are in control. they have the white house too with president obama. how are they reacting to this? >> on the capitol hill the reaction has been less than enthusiastic especially from democrats. here is more. >> well, i think is he so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually
how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy...
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if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed away from it. the mere prospect of president obama's being elected caused a huge run on ammunition, police departments were almost running out of it. now many democrats think the situation is different because of newtown and the other mass shootings this year, so i guess we're going to find out whether past is prologue. things have -- things may have changed. we're going to have to see how much they have. >> senators kay bailey hutchison and mark warren yesterday segment nauling their willing tons talk about this, and most likely the conversation leading itself to
if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed...
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the nra's ceo went on tv to defend. as barbara starr shows us, they're not backing down either. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. how many more? >> performers and artists now joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. wane laperriere, the chief executive officer and public face of the national rifle association made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or high-capacity ammunition magazines. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political leaders for 20 years always say it's because americans own guns. i tell you what i think will make people safe, and what will make moms and dads feel better. when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy. >> as the last of the newtown massacre victims are laid to res
the nra's ceo went on tv to defend. as barbara starr shows us, they're not backing down either. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. how many more? >> performers and artists now joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. wane laperriere, the chief executive officer and public face of the national rifle association made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons...
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the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was struck by what he said blaming the media and actually going out and reporting these facts that do take place, to let the american people what is going on, albeit it's very tragic and there have been copy-cats out there, but to blame the media out there. >> that is exactly right. there have been copy-cats out there. there has been kind of an iconic pre verse celebration of some of these killers who are sort of famous. there have been four movies made about the thrill killer, charles starkweather from the 1950s. four movies. i think another part of it is the im
the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was...
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the nra's ceo wayne lapierre insists a ban on assault weapons won't prevent mass killings, which he blames on violent video games and the media. he says armed guns eed guards are the best way to prevent tragedies. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, what they think it's crazy not to do it. >> and it's the end of an era for "newsweek" magazine. it's very last print e edition. the magazine will become a digital-only publication. this is a black and white photo and it's of the magazine's old new york headquarters. the 80-year-old "newsweek" fell victim to readers who moved online. in a statement, the editor said "we're making our last momentous change, embracing a digital medium that all our competitors one day will need to embrace. we are ahead of the curve." >>> christmas is upon us and can the fiscal cliff be far behind? the short answer is no. before flying off to hawaii, president obama left behind a stopgap plan to, in his words, agree on what he agree on and lea
the nra's ceo wayne lapierre insists a ban on assault weapons won't prevent mass killings, which he blames on violent video games and the media. he says armed guns eed guards are the best way to prevent tragedies. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, what they think it's crazy not to do it. >> and it's the end of an era for "newsweek" magazine. it's...
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it's the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is going to try to do that. >> reporter: nra president david kean added that banning particular guns simply doesn't work. >> we had a so-called assault weapons ban for ten years. it was allowed to expire. the fbi, the justice department and others who studied it said it made no difference. so if we're looking at things that are effective, let's talk about them. but first, let's talk about protecting our kids. >> reporter: the full court press from the nra comes as some democrats, who have long supported the nra, are showing an openness to change. democratic senator mark warner of virginia who has an "a" rating from the nra, suggested that the gun lobbying group is out of touch. >> to me simply saying existing gun laws are enough the status quo is acceptable just didn't pass my gut check as a father. >> reporter: most republican lawmakers, though, remain wary of any new gun l krocontrol measures such as an assault weapons ban. >> people where i live i've been christmas shopping all weekend, have come up to me and said please don'
it's the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is going to try to do that. >> reporter: nra president david kean added that banning particular guns simply doesn't work. >> we had a so-called assault weapons ban for ten years. it was allowed to expire. the fbi, the justice department and others who studied it said it made no difference. so if we're looking at things that are effective, let's talk about them. but first, let's talk about protecting our kids. >>...
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shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> right now in the newsroom, the opening bell rang at the stock exchange. stocks will close early, 1:00 eastern for the holiday. if you're wondering who's ringing the bell, these are the 12 festive dancers from the monte carlo. i wish they'd ring the bell every day, don't you? onto the news. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo is apologizing after being arrested and charged with driv
shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get...
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gregg: one town agrees on the nr with the nra. altoona, alabama, making sure one of its four officers are at the elementary school during school days. town residents seem to be on board with that. >> so thankful somebody will be here to stop that person because the person, the first thing i thought of is how rural we are here. that was a little rural town too, that never thought anything like that would happen to them. but we don't think that is going to happen to us either. >> we react we our emotion, if we don't do something for our school now i don't think we ever will. >>> there is always something to be done but having an officer there is the first line of defense. it drastically reduces response time. >> these teachers would take a bullet for their children and just a lot to ask because i know how much they love our children. and they do. i thank them so much. gregg: well the chief of police says the new commitment will cost a beg chunk of his budget but he is not willing to take any chances with the safety of children. heat
gregg: one town agrees on the nr with the nra. altoona, alabama, making sure one of its four officers are at the elementary school during school days. town residents seem to be on board with that. >> so thankful somebody will be here to stop that person because the person, the first thing i thought of is how rural we are here. that was a little rural town too, that never thought anything like that would happen to them. but we don't think that is going to happen to us either. >> we...
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and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive gun laws in defensive crouch right now and it's the time you want to capitalize on that. it's probably the only time. you don't want to let those forces, any sense of complacency setback and you don't want to let the force that is are standing in the way of progress on this issue give them time to regroup and get them -- bolster their efforts. this is going to exist. it's not easy to get done. >> mika, you look at what happened, how it happened. we talked about this happening in shopping mallses in oregon and movie theaters in colorado, college campuses in virginia. of course finally a first grade class in connecticut. in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i th
and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive gun laws in defensive crouch right now and it's the time you want to capitalize on that. it's probably the only time. you don't want to let those forces, any sense of complacency setback and you don't want to let the force that is are standing in the way of progress on this issue give them time to regroup and get them -- bolster their efforts. this is going to exist. it's not easy to get done. >> mika, you look at...
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he now works for the nra. he says this program would cost $2 billion to implement in the united states. our partners over at "u.s.a. today" have crunched the numbers. they say that 70% of schools in america currently don't have any police officers on the premises. 60% don't have any security officers at all in the situation. so that's a big change that would have to happen. there may not be the political capital there for republicans who tend to align themselves with the nra, even republicans like governor chris newkumetty from new jersey -- chris christie from new jersey are questioning the wisdom of putting more guns in school. >> the nra says this is what happens in israel and there haven't been any gun shootings in schools -- reductions. i've been there and there are guards outside every hotel. there were guards mobilizing around the boarder with syria. they're a nation with warring factions. this is what's not happening in this country. >> it's interesting. we saw the c.e.o. of the nra on meet the press s
he now works for the nra. he says this program would cost $2 billion to implement in the united states. our partners over at "u.s.a. today" have crunched the numbers. they say that 70% of schools in america currently don't have any police officers on the premises. 60% don't have any security officers at all in the situation. so that's a big change that would have to happen. there may not be the political capital there for republicans who tend to align themselves with the nra, even...
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. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people rush to buy assault weapons before a possible ban. >> we're completely out of the so-called assault weapons. so they're buying up everything. >> reporter: an abc news "washington post" poll show more americans continue to favor more restrictions on gun ownership. even sales of gun safes are shooting up. >> people are definitely concerned about the safety of their families and kids. >> reporter: a week after the massacre of those innocent children and adults in newtown, connecticut, the head of the national rifle association unveiled his plan, calling for every american school to have an armed guard. >> when that hor
. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people...
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he is the head of the nra. that is thinking and one thing from the nraa point of view is more guns. >> gretchen: that is a great point. as parents, you are kind of hamstrung on this issue. obviously you want your kid toz go to school and be safe whether it is it a shopping mall or movie theater. but i am not sure we are to that point as parents. are we at a point where we are comfortable with this is part of our culture now and that our kids will grow up knowing to be safe they needed armed people. it is the cart before the horse in a way. i don't know. shouldn't we try to be a less violent society first? before we say that -- it is a tough question. >> clayton: you take your kids to school and you hold their hand and you want them to be safe. but is it what you want them to see walking by an armed guard? you want them safe, but is this where we are now as a society? that they have to walk past an armed guard. >> gretchen: maybe it would be conceal i get all of that, but it is still a cultural question for me.
he is the head of the nra. that is thinking and one thing from the nraa point of view is more guns. >> gretchen: that is a great point. as parents, you are kind of hamstrung on this issue. obviously you want your kid toz go to school and be safe whether it is it a shopping mall or movie theater. but i am not sure we are to that point as parents. are we at a point where we are comfortable with this is part of our culture now and that our kids will grow up knowing to be safe they needed...
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the nra says it does not support any new gun control legislation and any knew efforts by congress to regulate guns or ammunition would not prevent mass shootings like the one in connecticut. the nra response is being panned on several fronts, even from republicans. >> i say not to mention guns in trying to eliminate sool violence is like not mentioning cigarettes in trying to eliminate lung cancer. it makes no sense. i am hopeful we can get this done in a bipartisan way with democrats and republicans joining together. >> i am not someone that believes having multiple armed guards in every school is something that will enhance the learning environment. that is the first responsibility inside of school is the learning environment. you don't want to make this an armed camp for kids. >> on friday president obama assembled a task force to reduce gun violence and wants concrete proposals in a month. >>> residents in mount airy, maryland, will take time out to honor the victims of the school shooting in connecticut. a candle lit vigil will be held at the mount airy fire company at route 27
the nra says it does not support any new gun control legislation and any knew efforts by congress to regulate guns or ammunition would not prevent mass shootings like the one in connecticut. the nra response is being panned on several fronts, even from republicans. >> i say not to mention guns in trying to eliminate sool violence is like not mentioning cigarettes in trying to eliminate lung cancer. it makes no sense. i am hopeful we can get this done in a bipartisan way with democrats and...
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. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering up an array of ideas, including universal background checks and tighter control laws. and he is exploring a run for the u.s. senate in 2014. >>> former penn state defensive coordinator jerry sandusky, responded to an interview request with a pennsylvania newspaper with a letter from prison, written on a small scrap of paper. sandusky says he wants to talk to the citizens voice newspaper but told to keep quiet by his attorneys as they appeal his conviction for sexually abuses ten boys. he says he spends 23 hours a day in his cell at a supermax security prison. >>> the end of an era. "newsweek" released the cover of it
. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering...
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the nra response is being panned on several fronts, even from republicans. >> i say not to mention guns in trying to eliminate school violence is like not mentioning cigarettes and trying to eliminate lung cancer. it makes no sense. i am hopeful we can get this done in a pop-up shower way. >> i'm -- in a bipartisan way. >> i'm not someone that believes having multiple armed guards in schools will enhance the learning environment. that is the first responsibility. you don't want this to be an armed camp for kids. >> president obama assembled a task force to reduce gun violence and wants concrete proposals within a month. >>> another inside attack in afghanistan targeting on americans. we will have the latest from overseas next. >> plus, day three of the first family's vacation in hawaii. we will tell you how they are been spending the holiday season on the island. >>> as much began police officials -- afghan police officials say a shooting happened at police h in -- headquarters in kabul. in a separate incident the u.s. military is investigating the apparent suicide of a navy
the nra response is being panned on several fronts, even from republicans. >> i say not to mention guns in trying to eliminate school violence is like not mentioning cigarettes and trying to eliminate lung cancer. it makes no sense. i am hopeful we can get this done in a pop-up shower way. >> i'm -- in a bipartisan way. >> i'm not someone that believes having multiple armed guards in schools will enhance the learning environment. that is the first responsibility. you don't...
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. >>> connecticut's number one fm radio show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hook shooting, the two radio hosts got serious and started taking calls from people trying to deal with the tragedy. >> we like to call it a town hall meeting held in a frat house. friday was strange. we went from in the morning doing one of the most happy, upbeat, fun shows of the year. >> next year's going to be even better. >> to in the afternoon doing the saddest show of our careers. >> he was one of the
the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to...
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the head of the nra renewed his call forearmed officers in schools. and the backlash against assault weapons is continuing. several stores in colorado are no longer selling them. one store owner said he didn't ever want to open a newspaper and find out something he had sold had been used in a tragedy like the one in newtown. the country is so divided on this issue. the polls suggest people want congress to take some action, if nothing more to close loopholes, perhaps ban some of the high capacity magazines. so you think something is going to happen, but you have to wonder if it has the votes in the house to get it passed. even that assault weapons ban from '94 to 2004, even when that passed in the '90s, it passed by two or three votes. so republicans now control the house. i don't know how anything gets through or if it is, it's a baby step. >> and as you heard from the nra, they don't seem to be budging on the issue, either. >> no. leavgun control alone. >>> now a major medical headline just out this morning, and it has to do with bullied, overweight
the head of the nra renewed his call forearmed officers in schools. and the backlash against assault weapons is continuing. several stores in colorado are no longer selling them. one store owner said he didn't ever want to open a newspaper and find out something he had sold had been used in a tragedy like the one in newtown. the country is so divided on this issue. the polls suggest people want congress to take some action, if nothing more to close loopholes, perhaps ban some of the high...